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Frogstar
post Aug 27 2004, 12:12 AM
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IGN has unearthed some new Jungle Beat screens.

View at your own risk.
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SpaceMountain
post Aug 27 2004, 01:01 AM
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What the hell...
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Fearnavigatr
post Aug 27 2004, 06:59 AM
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Dear God, NO!
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Chad
post Aug 27 2004, 09:16 AM
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Like I said, this is an awful awful drug trip.
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ivan1087
post Aug 27 2004, 10:06 AM
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DK!!! Dear God, what have they done to you? sad.gif
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Behonkiss
post Aug 27 2004, 10:31 AM
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The character designer for this game needs to get throttled, as does the people who gave his stuff the thumbs up.
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Sean
post Aug 27 2004, 10:43 AM
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And wouldn't ya know it, every other message board on the internet is getting fucking horny over these damn these. What are we, the last sane people in the Nintendo fandom?
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Joe
post Aug 27 2004, 10:44 AM
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...Yes.
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Slush
post Aug 27 2004, 10:46 AM
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Donkey Kong, meet Japan. Japan, Donkey Kong.

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WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?

I mean, the background is nice, but WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?
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Slush
post Aug 27 2004, 10:49 AM
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Donkey Kong destroys planet Earth.
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Chad
post Aug 27 2004, 10:53 AM
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In that first one it looks like he's using a GIANT RED CAT as a PARACHUTE while BIG-LIPPED PLANTS blow him back.
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Slush
post Aug 27 2004, 10:53 AM
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What kind of monkeys are these? I'm usually well-knowledged in my primates, apes, monkeys, and so forth, but I can't recall the name of them. Anyway, we have some new variety of apes. Yay.
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Chad
post Aug 27 2004, 10:54 AM
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Gibbons, maybe? They look like chicken-monkeys to me.
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Fearnavigatr
post Aug 27 2004, 10:56 AM
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Looking at these pictures makes my IQ drop by several numbers.
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Slush
post Aug 27 2004, 11:13 AM
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Yes, those are gibbons. Which brings the known apes on DK Island to...

Gorillas
Generic Monkeys
Baboons
Orangutans
Gibbons

Of course, there's more (why name a location Chimp Caverns or Chimpanzee Clouds if there were no chimps on the island?), but these are the ones we've seen.

Unless this is just a crazy drug trip by Donkey Kong, and then there's no telling.
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Slush
post Aug 27 2004, 11:16 AM
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Donkey Kong versus the bubble plant.
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Enter The Kiwi
post Aug 27 2004, 11:56 AM
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I'm definitely going with the drug trip theory. I think the parasailing one is a giant, red wig. My god, I think I'm going to have to buy this game due to it's pure insanity. I think Nintendo's officially lost it.
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Behonkiss
post Aug 27 2004, 12:04 PM
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Buy it?

DON'T YOU DARE.
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Frogstar
post Aug 27 2004, 12:07 PM
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I have to admit, the gibbon character design actually looks pretty good. Take away everything else in this game and set them next to a Rare Kong and I think they'd fit in pretty well. The backgrounds look decidedly less crap too, texture wise, although it doesn't look as though they're going to be any less crap, context wise:

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Also, and I don't want to get my hopes up here, but it looks like they may have done away with the unneccessary giant DK in the corner, as well as the green snot trail that used to follow him everywhere. Could just be wishful thinking though.
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Sean
post Aug 27 2004, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE (Behonkiss @ Aug 27 2004, 02:04 PM)
Buy it?

DON'T YOU DARE.

Seriously. Am I the only one who gives a crap about the PLAN?
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Shiggy
post Aug 27 2004, 12:17 PM
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The game is fun! But you read texts and see pictures and can say that it's bad...

You should play it! On the G|C 2004 was it damn fun! It was much better than Donkey Kong 64!
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Sean
post Aug 27 2004, 12:20 PM
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It was much better than Donkey Kong 64!


One bad game doesn't excuse another...
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Shiggy
post Aug 27 2004, 12:25 PM
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Donkey Kong Jungle Beat isn't bad. Look, what are the people saying who played it? The most people loved it. I think you are a Rareware fanatism that can't accept that they are an exclusive Xbox developer. DKJB is a good idea, the controls are much better then in the previous DK games!
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Sean
post Aug 27 2004, 12:28 PM
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Ten bucks says that all the people who are gushing over the game either hate the old DK games or don't care about them. Once again I cite Planet Gamecube's E3 impressions of the game, both of which called the game RE-PET-IT-IVE! Love that word.

Really, how in hell am I supposed to enjoy this "fantastic gameplay" everybody's gushing about if every other part of the game makes me want to throw up? I can't do it. You've got to draw me into the game first before I can appreciate the gameplay keeping me there, and Jungle Beat hasn't done that. Oh, and there's that whole part with it completely ignoring everything DK that came before it, something even Konga (well, Konga 2) dared not to do. If you're gonna have the franchise, why the hell aren't you using it?

EDIT: And how the hell have I not accepted Rare's being an official Xbox developer? Hellooo, last I checked, I have an Xbox sitting right across the room from me. Rare's not the issue here and never was.
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Frogstar
post Aug 27 2004, 12:34 PM
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The game is fun! But you read texts and see pictures and can say that it's bad...

You should play it! On the G|C 2004 was it damn fun! It was much better than Donkey Kong 64!


I've never said it won't be fun. It probably will be, so long as you squint real hard as you play it. Fun or not, this game's visual design is an utter disaster. The wild absract characters and backgrounds just don't fit Donkey Kong. He looks completely out of place in this game. Like I've said before, it's almost as if they were already making Yoshi's Story 2, then at some point in development some Nintendo higher up said, "Hey, let's use the Konga Bongos in this game!" And the developers said, "Sure, great! Oh, but I guess this means we have to make Donkey Kong the main character, huh? No problem!"

PLOP!
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And then you have Jungle Beat.
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Shiggy
post Aug 27 2004, 12:35 PM
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I'm sorry, but when you think that...I can't cange it. I and many othe rpeople know that the game is a innovative and good game, which has after the last Rareware disappointments much more potencial as their games.
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Sean
post Aug 27 2004, 12:36 PM
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That picture is brilliant, Frogstar, you know that?

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I'm sorry, but when you think that...I can't cange it.

No problem. I didn't particularly want you to "cange" it anyway.

Though if you can call me a Rare fanatic, then I can call you a Nintendo kissass. Only fair.
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Monkey Mischief
post Aug 27 2004, 01:23 PM
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But we aren't hating on the games because they're shit so much as we are because they disregard Donkey Kong's past. That's hardly bias.
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Slush
post Aug 27 2004, 02:47 PM
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Exactly. It reminds me of the Star Wars prequel fans calling out the Star Wars Original Trilogy fans for not liking Episodes 1 and 2. Same scenario, pretty much.

A lot of the backgrounds do look good in the new screenshot batch, but the characters are RIDICULOUS. This is the crazy-ass cracker shit you'd see in the Mushroom Kingdom, and then some. The craziest you ever got in Donkey Kong before this was a cat with nine tails and a giant barrel.

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which has after the last Rareware disappointments much more potencial as their games.


Well Mr. Miyamoto (come on, we know that's really you), I'm not sure which dissapointments (plural) you're talking about. Donkey Kong 64 was, yes, but what other ones? The entire DKC trilogy was platforming perfection, and the DKLs were the best platformers for the original Game Boy. Diddy Kong Racing was aces. What else? DKC GBC? It was a good game, but you'd be a fool to expect a perfect port of DKC. DKC GBA and DKC2 GBA? Hardely dissapointments. I can only see one missed swing during Rare's entire DK tenure, and even that was pretty fun the first time through.
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Slush
post Aug 27 2004, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (Frogstar @ Aug 27 2004, 02:07 PM)
I have to admit, the gibbon character design actually looks pretty good. Take away everything else in this game and set them next to a Rare Kong and I think they'd fit in pretty well.

I actually agree. They have the right look to be an ape in this world, unlike if you were to put Ukikis in this game. In fact, the gibbons are the only thing I'm impressed with (besides a few cool backgrounds) out of this entire mess.
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Shiggy
post Aug 27 2004, 03:07 PM
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I thoght about Crabbed by the Ghoulies, the new boss in DKC2, Starfox Adventures and some other games.

More than 50 employees left Rare in the time after getting a part of the MGS! In the two year before this change also many people!
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Sean
post Aug 27 2004, 03:14 PM
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First off, Kerozene is badass. You're the first person I've ever seen who's complained about him.

Secondly, what the HELL does Rare undergoing staff shiftings have to do with the quality of the DK franchise?! All your examples happened AFTER the DKCs and DK64, if you notice. Oh, and using GbtG and SFA as examples of Rare sucking on this board is... not a very smart idea...
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Slush
post Aug 27 2004, 03:26 PM
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Especially when you're using an avatar FROM Star Fox Adventures. Oh my.

Yeah, Ghoulies is adored on this board, as is SFA by the majority (read: everyone but Behonkiss). It's not that we're blinded by Rare. After all, most of us have issues with DK64 and Banjo-Tooie. Both SFA and GBTG got a bad rap by the critics and Nintendo loyalists. In fact, most people we've convinced to try SFA (in the Star Fox Adventures Appreciation Thread) ended up loving it.

And yes, Kerozene is wicked awesome. How can you even complain about him?
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Fearnavigatr
post Aug 27 2004, 03:41 PM
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Well, heร‚ยดs not in the SNES version. So you canร‚ยดt fight him every time you play DKC2.
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Slush
post Aug 27 2004, 03:53 PM
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Getting back to screenshot analysis...

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Just what in the hell IS THAT? A bird? A plant? A dinosaur?

Also, what's with those ruins? They don't look tropical to me. Almost medieval European.
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Fearnavigatr
post Aug 27 2004, 03:58 PM
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That screenshot REALLY reminds me of Flower Fields in Paper Mario.
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Slush
post Aug 27 2004, 04:09 PM
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Actually, I recall that statement. That totem pole looks rather tropical.

You know what I hate?

How whenever something is sleeping in a Nintendo game, it's portrayed by having a bubble coming out of its nose.

WHEN DOES THAT EVER HAPPEN? WHEN?
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Sean
post Aug 27 2004, 04:13 PM
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In almost any comedy Japanese animated-based piece of art, to be honest. Games, anime, etc. It's hardly an original concept over there, even if it's stupid.
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Slush
post Aug 27 2004, 04:18 PM
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But Donkey Kong is a Briti... oh, right. Not anymore.

Fuckety-doo.

If this isn't a drug hallucination, I'm going to be very crushed at what they're doing to Donkey Kong.
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SuperBanjo
post Aug 27 2004, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE (Slush @ Aug 27 2004, 05:09 PM)
How whenever something is sleeping in a Nintendo game, it's portrayed by having a bubble coming out of its nose.

WHEN DOES THAT EVER HAPPEN? WHEN?

They have snot.
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Chad
post Aug 27 2004, 06:23 PM
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I personally can't wait for this game. These screenshots make me laugh more than they make me angry. I think it's because, unlike most of you, I really don't care what happens to the DK series any more. I'll love when new awesome games come out, as they should, but the shit games aren't any skin off my nose. This one looks beyond shitty, like it's entered some zen state of apeshit insanity, and I can't wait to find out how truly nonsensical it is. The only thing I pity is that Nintendo isn't making it crazy intentionally. They think this is the direction DK should take.

There's enough quality games out there that this small island of (very very funny) shit isn't going to hurt me. I'll play it for the same reason I saw Torque and You Got Served.

Oh, and that Chicken Plant Monster thing looks like it's got legs instead of roots. Weird. Pretty sky, though.
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Slush
post Aug 27 2004, 11:31 PM
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I'm surprised the clouds don't have faces so they can urinate honey from their eyes.
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Xmooth
post Aug 28 2004, 05:05 AM
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QUOTE (ivan1087 @ Aug 27 2004, 06:06 PM)
DK!!! Dear God, what have they done to you?ร‚ย  sad.gif

I was thinking the same... sad.gif

I just want another 2D DK platform, in which I could play using the usual controller (not stupid peripherals dry.gif ).
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post Aug 28 2004, 09:01 AM
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The bubble-in-the-nose is pretty much the definition of exported Japanese art.

Hmmรขโ‚ฌยฆ maybe the lateness of night has intoxicated me, but I'm actually beginning to go with the flow of these very disturbing character designs. These abberations are pretty much the perfect enemy, because they are manifestations of PURE EVIL. They're like Wario World versions of Metroid Prime's bosses (MP2 for the DK doppelganger.) Matter of fact, that's the vibe I get from the entire environment. It says "there is twisted, mighty and dreamlike devilry at work in the jungle. Could it be a threat that will swallow the DKU in its wake?"
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Behonkiss
post Aug 28 2004, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE (Slush @ Aug 28 2004, 12:31 AM)
I'm surprised the clouds don't have faces so they can urinate honey from their eyes.

Wouldn't that be secretion?....Sercetion? Secertion? Dammit, I forgot how to spell it.
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Chad
post Aug 28 2004, 09:32 AM
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I suppose it would give "golden shower" a whole new meaning.
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post Aug 28 2004, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE (Slush @ Aug 27 2004, 03:47 PM)
The craziest you ever got in Donkey Kong before this was a cat with nine tails and a giant barrel.

Might I dare make a list?!

DARK DENIZENS OF THE JUNGLE OF INSANITY:
รขโ‚ฌยข Banana Birds
รขโ‚ฌยข Hogwash (<-- worth double points)
รขโ‚ฌยข Cat o' Nine Tails
รขโ‚ฌยข Dumb Drum
รขโ‚ฌยข Kleever
รขโ‚ฌยข Rattly
รขโ‚ฌยข Belcha
รขโ‚ฌยข Venus Fly Traps in DKC Barrel Maze
รขโ‚ฌยข Tiny Kong
รขโ‚ฌยข DK64 (you just count up the ones in here.)
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David
post Aug 28 2004, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE (Shiggy @ Aug 27 2004, 01:25 PM)
DKJB is a good idea, the controls are much better then in the previous DK games!

I think using a + Control Pad or Control Stick is better than using bongos to move around. And wouldn't it make more sense to press a button to attack rather than clap your hands?

QUOTE (Chad @ Aug 27 2004, 07:23 PM)
I'll play it for the same reason I saw Torque and You Got Served.

Now that I think about it, considering all this other shit I willingly expose myself to, I can almost look forward to this. I saw Garfield: The Movie and From Justin To Kelly. So I might buy this for the same reason I bought Shaq-Fu and Superman 64 a few months ago. Or the same reason I don't use the Sonic Adventure games as coasters.
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post Aug 28 2004, 01:15 PM
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The screenshots look so stupid, they're creepy. What in the world HAVE they done to DK?
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Zinggy
post Aug 28 2004, 02:58 PM
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I was incredibly angry about this until I read Chad's theory of the zen state of apeshit insanity.

I realize now that I can laugh at this, wait for KoS and DKC2 GBA, and break out the SNES every once in a while for some good old nostalgia.
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